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(Date Posted:11/05/2007 20:44:59)

I WAS A COMBAT MEDIC AND WITTNESED MANY TRAUMAS AND DEATHS.I SUFFER WITH PTSD AND PHYSICAL IMPAIRMENTS DAILY.I KNOW CIVILIANS DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW MANY SERVICEMEMBERS WERE KILLED DURING COLD WAR PERIOD.THEY SEEM TO THINK THAT IF IT WAS NOT IN THE PAPER OR ON TV IT DID NOT HAPPEN.I KNOW FOR A FACT IT DID AND I WILL ALWAYS REMEBER THEIR FACES AS THAT OF A HERO REGARDLESS OF WHEN OR WHERE IT HAPPENED.FOR THOSE WHO LAY DOWN THEIR LIFE FOR ANOTHER ,FOR THEY ARE THE TRUE HEROS AND THE UTMOST RESPECT SHOULD BE BESTOWED ON THEM!     SORRY TO SEEM SO GRIM IN MY FIRST POST BUT IT IS HARD TO FIND SOMEONE TO RELATE TO.AFTER MY HONORABLE DISCHARGE I WAS GIVEN A LIFETIME OF ZANEX (ANTI-DEPPRESANTS) WITH NO PHYCLOGICAL AFTERCARE.THEY DID NOT CARE ABOUT IT THEN LIKE THEY DO NOW.. ANYBODY OUT THERE WITH SAME PROBLEMS MAY GOD HELP AND KEEP YOU FROM HARM.

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(Date Posted:11/05/2007 20:52:04)

WELCOME BRAVO:

First and most importantly, thank you for all you have done for our country. Eventually you will find your niche here but give it some time. I know we have / had others with PTSD here so you are not alone and among friends. You call your first post grim, I'll just call it a sad truth. Never be afraid to ask questions or ask for help. It is why we exist.

Hope to see your name often on the forum. Take care.

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(Date Posted:11/05/2007 22:52:37)

Hello Bravo; I also want to welcome you and to thank you for your service. You are one of us here on the ACWV forums. looking forward to reading your post.    Harold;;
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(Date Posted:11/06/2007 01:39:56)

Welcome 91Bravo123.

You are among friends here.

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(Date Posted:11/06/2007 01:42:44)

Welcome home here 91 bravo thank you for your service, you are not alone grab your mug of cheer and become one of the family

Glen

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jayhawkhenry
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(Date Posted:11/06/2007 06:12:25)

Welcome 91Bravo. Your voice is needed and welcome. Glad to have you here.
Henry

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(Date Posted:11/06/2007 19:56:16)

91Bravo, Welcome Home!!! You are among friends here, you will have an ear to listen to you, type away! We are here for you brother! I really hope that you will find yourself joining in and eventually feeling like this really is home and we really are your Brothers and Sisters!!!
John

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Andrew1848
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RE:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:01/28/2009 00:11:25)


-- I was wounded and nobody came/is coming...           

It was the spring of 1979. i was stationed at Naval Security Group
Activity Keflavik Iceland, at the Rockville site. I was on Duty and
decided I needed to use the Head. After I was so tired i had to take a
walk around the building, something I had never done before. I went out
side and nodded my head to the Marine Gate Guard and walked to the side
of the old building that faces the sea. It was nice and cold, and I
loved it. A couple of minutes went by and I noticed shadows. I saw What
looked like a submarine and a raft bobbing in the water. I started
screaming to the Marine, "There's somebody out there, There is somebody
out there!!!" Next I saw about 4 or 5 shadows of people coming and I
screamed again. This time I saw some flashes. I saw one and a noise
sounded to my left, then a sound to my right. Thats the moment I
figured somebody got there bearing. Next flash hit me in the head and I
flew backwards and my cap came off. I just lied there and watched the
Marine run from my side to the Guard shack. I never saw him again until
the shift change. I finally got up and flipped the shooters off and
grabbed my cap and walked back in the building. My gate was so bad I
don't know how I even moved. I got back up inside the building but
couldn't get up the stares. i screamed for help, but nobody came. I
grabbed a mop handle and used it to get to the galley to get some paper
towels to clean up my head. All the time I am thinking the guys that
shot me are coming and the Marines have orders to kill us watchstanders
if we are attacked. I could barely walk but I used the mop handle as a
cane and maybe as a weapon, I figured it was better than nothing and I
was gonna die anyway. I also figured that I could talk the Marines out
of shooting us.... I got back to the point where I was shot and looked
around the corner and the people and the sub were gone... I walked
around the building and saw no one. By this time My legs were doing
better. I was still scared. I walked up the stares unlocked the spaces
door sat in a chair and vegged out holding on to my wound(just a deep
graze).... I spent my time wondering what to say to the
guard...Meanwhile I don't think I talked to a soul....The shift change
came and I went passed the Marine guard and the poor guy was freaking
out....I just said don't worry it will be OK.... I got on the bus with
some of my section workers for the ride back to the base....I told them
what happened and showed them my wound, they either said they didn't
believe me or said nothing.... I decided to keep my mouth shut.... I
got stared at in the barracks for a day or two but no questions.... I
went back to my eve watch a couple of days later and Senior Chief
Messervey walked into the spaces with a memo that said it was just a
rumor that the marines would kill us watch standers if we were
attacked... I freaked myself...I smelled a cover up and shut up for
almost 30 years. My PTSD is making me lose sleep over this...I didn't
get a Purple Heart or any decoration of any kind....I wonder if this
kinda crap happened to any other people in the service.... I want my PH!

-Andrew (Andi) Carpenter
andrew-preston@comcast.net

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Andrew1848
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RE:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:01/28/2009 00:21:15)

Dera 91 Bravo,
 As you saw from my other post that I have the same or at least close to what you have been through. I get physical help from the VA but not mental. They offer a half hour session a month where the intern asks you how you are feeling and is very distant. spends almost 20 minutes talking about my meds and weather I need more, takes 5 minutes to talk to the on-call shrink and then gives me the story and a see ya next month. Sometimes I just can't take it. I have 1 good friend who , when she is not frustrated with me, helps me stay focused. She is a non veteran. Her father was a WWLL hero though and she got the bug from him. If I could find a partner who is in-tune with my struggles and in fact all our struggles as Vets, then she would make me very happy. Sorry, I don't think I helped much:( Best wishes and keep the faith, Try focusing on the Faces of those who are alive and might need some help from you....
-Andi-

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RE:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:01/28/2009 09:51:17)

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RE:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:01/28/2009 09:57:59)

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Jerald Terwilliger
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RE:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:01/28/2009 13:50:10)

I have moved this thread to a place where it might get more notice.  I am not sure how or why the ads
show up in the middle of this thng.

I would like to welcome Andrew and say thank you for your service. We all know what it is like to
battle the VA, I hope you can eventually get the help you need.

Jerry

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PastNikeVet
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Re:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:01/28/2009 19:27:44)

Welcome 91Bravo as well Andrew as for PTSD for any veterans Not in a warzone engaged in Combat defined by the DOD/VA treatment or benifits shall be like hens teeth.

I wish you both well your among some good folks :)

Glen

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lostexair
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Reply To Andrew1848
(Date Posted:01/30/2009 06:56:44)

Reply to Andrew1848 (01/28/2009 00:11:25)


-- I was wounded and nobody came/is coming...           

It was the spring of 1979. i was stationed at Naval Security Group
Activity Keflavik Iceland, at the Rockville site. I was on Duty and
decided I needed to use the Head. After I was so tired i had to take a
walk around the building, something I had never done before. I went out
side and nodded my head to the Marine Gate Guard and walked to the side
of the old building that faces the sea. It was nice and cold, and I
loved it. A couple of minutes went by and I noticed shadows. I saw What
looked like a submarine and a raft bobbing in the water. I started
screaming to the Marine, "There's somebody out there, There is somebody
out there!!!" Next I saw about 4 or 5 shadows of people coming and I
screamed again. This time I saw some flashes. I saw one and a noise
sounded to my left, then a sound to my right. Thats the moment I
figured somebody got there bearing. Next flash hit me in the head and I
flew backwards and my cap came off. I just lied there and watched the
Marine run from my side to the Guard shack. I never saw him again until
the shift change. I finally got up and flipped the shooters off and
grabbed my cap and walked back in the building. My gate was so bad I
don't know how I even moved. I got back up inside the building but
couldn't get up the stares. i screamed for help, but nobody came. I
grabbed a mop handle and used it to get to the galley to get some paper
towels to clean up my head. All the time I am thinking the guys that
shot me are coming and the Marines have orders to kill us watchstanders
if we are attacked. I could barely walk but I used the mop handle as a
cane and maybe as a weapon, I figured it was better than nothing and I
was gonna die anyway. I also figured that I could talk the Marines out
of shooting us.... I got back to the point where I was shot and looked
around the corner and the people and the sub were gone... I walked
around the building and saw no one. By this time My legs were doing
better. I was still scared. I walked up the stares unlocked the spaces
door sat in a chair and vegged out holding on to my wound(just a deep
graze).... I spent my time wondering what to say to the
guard...Meanwhile I don't think I talked to a soul....The shift change
came and I went passed the Marine guard and the poor guy was freaking
out....I just said don't worry it will be OK.... I got on the bus with
some of my section workers for the ride back to the base....I told them
what happened and showed them my wound, they either said they didn't
believe me or said nothing.... I decided to keep my mouth shut.... I
got stared at in the barracks for a day or two but no questions.... I
went back to my eve watch a couple of days later and Senior Chief
Messervey walked into the spaces with a memo that said it was just a
rumor that the marines would kill us watch standers if we were
attacked... I freaked myself...I smelled a cover up and shut up for
almost 30 years. My PTSD is making me lose sleep over this...I didn't
get a Purple Heart or any decoration of any kind....I wonder if this
kinda crap happened to any other people in the service.... I want my PH!

-Andrew (Andi) Carpenter
andrew-preston@comcast.net
Well Andrew, I had to think about your post for a couple of days. That kind of crap indeed happened to other folks also. Anyone who tried to report it paid a price . That is the worst part of it all though, when "your side" is against you also. No official records would have been made, so any claim would be discounted, not for malicious reasons, but because of classic threat logic. Nowadays though, if it happened to a troop, it would automatically be investigated, as history has shown that to be the prudent choice. The seventies were the begining of the terror-type warfare as opposed to the classic battlefield type of warfare mindset of the Cold War. It was outside of "command logic" that any of our bases, or base areas could be the battlefield, unless the attacker was a standing Army with their national flag waving in the front. I think after the Iranian hostage crisis and the Beirut bombing, that logic quickly changed.

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Andrew1848
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Re:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:01/31/2009 01:52:46)

 Well Lostexair, you said it all. Yet there are all of us who are trying to figure out if there is someone/thing out there that is designed to help us Vets that are effecdted??? I would love to be able to email or surf to a place that is there just for us who have survived and were un noticed. When I was at McGuire AFB to catch my flight to Edzell. Some parents of an 8yo boy sent him to me, he spat on me in my Uniform. I felt so helpless, no MP's around and everybody turned thier heads. I feel like that right now. Except for some vets and there families who have emailed me and you guys on this page who have given me words of encouragement. I still feel like I have fallen between the cracks, and Brother I don't like it!! The 70's were the begining of gorillas in the cold war... I am not asking for a decoration for saving all our lives in the building I was in (13 people) I just want my PH. From my nation for getting wounded and getting lucky all at the same time. Is the presidnt that I had to play in the NFL before I get attention? It would be nice to know What Sgt Tillman' family did to get the DOD to pay attention??? Thanks again friends and NO SLAM to Mr Tillman or his family, Slam to the DOD....
-Andi-

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lostexair
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Re:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:01/31/2009 06:21:16)

If you are in the VA system, I would consider myself lucky. I was physically escored out of the VA in 1987 and have a VSO working on getting me back in now. There are War Veterans right now who were being told their shrapnel wounds are not service related. The VA says they are opening up to more Vets. Good luck to those in need.

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Andrew1848
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Re:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:02/13/2009 01:42:40)

 The VA is barely better than nothing and thats on thier best day. I am sad that You were escorted out. It took me 12 years to get them to give me 120% of my entitlement. The problem is, there is no follow through. And every person in this county who comes accross my wheeled path, wants something from me. I am a disabled vet, shot and hit by a car, and I still have to fight everyday to get my pills, batteries, records, etc from the VA. I don't feel lucky. i feel like I am being tollerated by an administration that doesnt care as long as THEY get there dough...
-Andi-

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Guest



RE:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:02/13/2009 08:16:40)

I am sorry to hear you are confined to a wheelchair because of a drunk. I used to be one and am lucky I never hurt anyone besides myself. The VA is getting better now because a lot of veterans are going to work there, twenty-five years ago they had some very hateful employees at my local VA. I go to a clinic now and am waiting for a rating on my claim, it's been twenty-five years in the works, but someday, someday.
lostexair
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RE:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:02/13/2009 09:51:57)

That was my post, I wasn't logged in I guess.

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RevrundJim
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RE:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:04/11/2009 23:18:11)

Among our number are those who worked a “Pos” in places like Guam, P.I. and Okinawa during the Viet Nam Era, and were exposed to traffic that we couldn’t do much about other than listen to it and feel the emotions… And then try to forget bad memories... Nothing UNCLAS, so we can’t say much – But now we’re paying the price for the stressor – and can’t get the assistance needed from the VA because we can’t PROVE a classified stressor ever happened! No specific public records, DD214’s that only say “Radio Operator”, not even Buddy Statements – which the VA will accept as evidence – because we all know that there’s a line between UNCLAS and “They Said Don’t Tell”… Unless there’s a way to tell it without REALLY telling it? We did our jobs, performed our duty the best way we could... Can we REALLY prove it?... I've heard everything from "You have no Combat Action Ribbons, so you couldn't possibly have PTSD" to "That's really funny...are you serious?"

Thoughts? Ideas?
Suggestions?
PastNikeVet
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Re:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:04/11/2009 23:59:23)

Revrund Jim

Sadly this shall be an uphill battle (even if we get the CWVM passed) DOD as well the V.A. have wittled it down to the point a veteran near has to be in hand to hand combat,use new ways to deny and vets against each other pushing the my war is better.

So for those folks dig in the battle is just starting and shall require all of us pounding those postions till they weaken and the right choice of taking care of all that served is done.

Thanks for your service Glen

Undique Venimus 

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Andrew1848
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RE:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:04/12/2009 01:19:50)

The latest for me is I submitted a letter to congresswoman Woolsey and she said"your problem is not in my jurisdiction." I wrote to the president and have yet to hear, I wrote to the American Legion 4 months ago and have yet to hear. I am posting a request for my records to be updated to include a Purple Heart. All I have is my statement and some names of people then. It will be in the mail to D.C. in the morning. I don't know what else to do, no one in authority will contact me. I paid $50 for a life membership in MOPH and they said send me a copy of the findings. Nothin about helping. I am somewhat relieved but still aprehensive and angry....
CTT2 Andrew (Andi) Carpenter USN DAV

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Jerald Terwilliger
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RE:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:04/12/2009 03:32:23)

Revrund Jim,

I agree whole heartedly, I spent 66-68 in PI handeling all the traffic, read the morning reports and
a few times had to go in the corner to cry. Things you never forget, and not supposed to talk about.
I am bringing up a few things with my counsler, but not all yet. Still a work in process.

Jerry

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RevrundJim
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RE:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:04/12/2009 22:35:09)

Jerry,

I understand the work in process..... going thru that myself... I was in a little later...Navcomsta Guam 72-74, but there was still enough gpoing on to keep some of us awake at night and spend a lot of time walking around the basketball courts after midnight... Hang in there...it really does help to know someone else understands and believes...

Jim
Andrew1848
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Re:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:04/12/2009 23:58:26)

 I was providing intteligence to the the South Vietnam area well into 1976-(part of)77. But because it was TS I cant give details or wear any patches or medals that refer to Vietnam.. Thats the Naval intteligence for ya. The war was "Over" in 1975...Not! Now I am fighting for a PH, that I may get? I was there, I have the scars..... Speaking of scars, my best friend/ex wife was burned all over her face by a dentist that had a bunson burner going next to an oxegen feed and (of course) it blew up... She is in a bad way so I am helping to take care of her. I am a proud veteran and I ALWAYS step up to the plate. Has this turned into an America full of shortcuts that can kill or wound people only to give respect to the dollar??? It's funny, Susan's doctors were all talkin about her after care and how she was going to get it and when it can happen soonest. I wish my Navy doctors would have thought about that for me or any of us Sailors. The VA treats me like I am a hampster they have to take care of and feed once a month. How can I display my pride in serving during Vietnam, even though it was officialy over???? Just another spike in my Iron Maiden...
-Andi-

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Cobra11A
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Re:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:04/13/2009 15:39:31)

This is a much needed thread. There is a lot to be said for PTSD for Cold War duty. For example, I went through approx. 24 alerts while on or near the DMZ in Korea during 87/88. We didn't know if they were drills until hours or even days later. Sometimes they weren't drills (i.e. when the NKPA masses on the boarder you deploy to your positions and scan your sector locked and loaded - full basic load of ammo).

I am fortunate as I have not had long lasting effects from the alerts and the 13 months of steady tension I experience over there but I could see how for some it could really mess up someone nerves for life. It did take me about a year to dry out when I came back. When you are busting open the ammo crates while the sirens are blaring it is quite a feeling epecially considering the threat ratio we had (as in the likelihood of survival was very low in the forward positions on the wire).

I would imagine similar stressors were in Germany in the forwardly deployed positions in the 70's and 80's.

It really pisses me off when other service members don't understand the stress generated by this type of Cold War duty. Really nobody understands combat without blood. Whenver somebody asked me if I was in combat I typically say well, read Tommy Franks book, a veteran of multiple wars, once said Korea Defense Service felt a whole lot more like war than peace (i.e. a supposed peace keeping mission).

The same could be said for other Cold War duty at that time.

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RevrundJim
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RE:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:04/13/2009 22:53:44)

I hear you guys... The VA told me that, in order to even get a "courtesy rating" for diagnosed PTSD, which the Docs at the VAMC state in writing originated during my tour on Guam, I needed at least one buddy statement from the same time frame that stated the same exposure to "the stressor" during their stay on Guam... Like somebody is going to violate their TS agreement and make a statement like that... They give us the meds and our 20 minutes with a counselor and send us on our way for another month...

So - we keep moving and try to convince ourselves that we did our jobs... And get what help we can...I truly feel for the folks who had it worse than me... God bless you all! Hang tough  

The Rev

PS: I apologise if I sound a little bitter... I'm not really...Just not having a good day.. My bad.
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RE:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:05/18/2009 04:50:44)

I know of a place.......it's an online ptsd forum.

Doesn't cost a dime, unless you wanna  make a donation.

There you can make yourself an online diary, and work though your problems. Some are vets, most are just regular people. They don't judge you, or question you. You will be welcomed.

They don't talk about suicide, as that would bring alot of people down, it's a matter of understanding that we all think about it, we just don't talk about it.

When you sign up, you'll be moderated for a bit, to make sure that your not there to spam the place, then they take you off moderation.

They have sh*t loads of info, for both people with ptsd and for their care givers.

Please understand, you can talk to doctors all you want, until your blue in the face, bottom line, the power to learn to handle and deal with your ptsd is within you.



I know these things cause I have been a member there for just over a year, if memory serves.



I wont post the link here.....I will forward it to a MOD here and let them make that call.



Cannon Cocker



P.S.

Jerry, You have email


(Message edited by Cannon_Cocker On 05/18/2009 04:55:59)

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PastNikeVet
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Re:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:05/18/2009 05:49:59)

Thanks CC this is important information we can pass along that will be of great service to fellow veterans it is a very good thing you have done brother : )

Glen

Undique Venimus

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Andrew1848
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Re:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:05/19/2009 02:58:13)

 This is tourture waiting for info on a place that might help me with my PTSD. Oh, I lost another friend. She got angry at me and dugg herfingernails into my arm. Little blood, but that was enough for me. She seemsx to be happy to be rid of me. I on the otherhand venture on. I have plenty of cyber friends but no real life tagible ones. Why do people think it's OK to through me away? Oh Well I am use to that too!
-Andi-

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RE:PTSD AMONG COLD WAR VETRANS
(Date Posted:05/19/2009 23:30:42)

Thank you CC for that link. I browsed through some of it and it looks like something that would
really help.

I know a lot of us have PTSD and get no help.  Here is the link http://www.ptsdforum.org/

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The American Cold War Veterans is a nonpartisan 501c nonprofit veterans service organization incorporated in the State of Florida and founded on August 18, 2007 at The Truman Library in Independence, MO. As a group we are dedicated to all of our Brother and Sister Veterans, with special dedication to those who served during the Cold War era September 1945 to December 1991. Our Mission is to bring respect, recognition and awareness to Veterans of the Cold War era no matter what branch of service, whether active duty, reserve or National Guard. We are committed to honoring the sacrifices made by millions of American men and women during the Cold War, especially those who paid the ultimate price of life or liberty. We intend to see that the Cold War's history is completely and accurately understood by people everywhere. We are united in these goals and speak with one voice.


NDAA 2002 - FACT


The NDAA 2002 was passed by congress October 2001 signed into Law Dec. 28 2001, In the NDAA that was approved by both houses, signed into law by the President, was the Sense of Congress to authorize the Campaign Medal for service in the Cold War.

NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2002

115 STAT. 1118 PUBLIC LAW 107–107—DEC. 28, 2001 Code, that the award of the Distinguished Flying Cross to that individual is warranted and that a waiver of time restrictions prescribed by law for recommendation for such award is recommended.

SEC. 556. SENSE OF CONGRESS ON ISSUANCE OF CERTAIN MEDALS.
It is the sense of Congress that the Secretary of Defense should consider authorizing—

  1. the issuance of a campaign medal, to be known as the Korea Defense Service Medal, to each person who while a member of the Armed Forces served in the Republic of Korea, or the waters adjacent thereto, during the period beginning on July 28, 1954, and ending on such date thereafter as the Secretary considers appropriate;

  2. the issuance of a campaign medal, to be known as the Cold War Service Medal, to each person who while a member of the Armed Forces served satisfactorily on active duty during the Cold War; and

  3. the award of the Vietnam Service Medal to any member or former member of the Armed Forces who was awarded the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal for participation in military operations designated as Operation Frequent Wind arising from the evacuation of Vietnam on April 29 and 30, 1975.


The Medal was not created! Why?

Were Cold War veterans casualties of the Iraq War planning?

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Wikipedia Background - Cold War Victory Medal




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