Posted on 11/19/2009 15:43:45
Duh ! I suspect where they have been forwarded { passed in the house ? } it is Senate members we need to ask for support ?
Frank T. or Sean have I got this right remember be nice I am new at this LOL
PNV
Posted on 11/19/2009 15:31:31
Okay folks here is the second bill (207) please note at the end { HI } as well HCON are needed when searching Washingtonwatch.com for the latest updates as well to voice your feelings folks keep up the fire : )
HCON 207 IH
111th CONGRESS1st Session
H. CON. RES. 207Expressing the sense of the Congress regarding the victory of the United States in The Cold War and the Fall of the Berlin Wall.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVESNovember 3, 2009
Mr. WILSON of South Carolina (for himself, Mr. CONAWAY, Mr. BARTLETT, Mr. INGLIS, Mr. COBLE, Ms. FOXX, Mr. CALVERT, Mrs. BLACKBURN, Ms. JENKINS, Mr. LAMBORN, Mr. CHAFFETZ, Mr. PRICE of Georgia, Mr. ROGERS of Kentucky, Mr. GALLEGLY, Mr. LATTA, Mr. CULBERSON, Mr. MCCLINTOCK, Mr. BURTON of Indiana, Mr. YOUNG of Florida, Mr. WAMP, Mr. HOEKSTRA, Mrs. MYRICK, and Mr. WOLF) submitted the following concurrent resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Foreign Affairs
CONCURRENT RESOLUTIONExpressing the sense of the Congress regarding the victory of the United States in The Cold War and the Fall of the Berlin Wall.
Whereas The Cold War was an enduring struggle between totalitarian communism and democratic capitalism throughout the second half of the 20th century;
Whereas an estimated 24,000,000 members of the United States Armed Forces served during The Cold War ;
Whereas 400,000,000 people were freed from the bondage of communism during The Cold War in the countries then known as the Soviet Union, East Germany, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Romania, and Bulgaria;
Whereas 139,000,000 people were freed from the bondage of communism during The Cold War in the former Soviet Republics, in countries now known as Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Krygyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan;
Whereas the events surrounding the Fall of the Berlin Wall and the end of The Cold War ignited the political transition to democracy in Yugoslavia, Albania, Mongolia, Thailand, Cambodia, Mozambique, Benin, Ethiopia, Angola, and the Congo;
Whereas the victory of the United States in The Cold War signifies freedom and security and opportunity for the formerly oppressed, and will continue to do so for decades to come;
Whereas the Fall of the Berlin Wall, one of the most significant events of the 20th century, symbolized the triumph of democratic capitalism over totalitarian communism; and
Whereas, November 9, 2009, will mark the 20th anniversary of this historic event: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That it is the sense of the Congress that the Nation should celebrate the victory of the United States in The Cold War and the 20th anniversary of the Fall of the Berlin Wall by--
(1) promoting education about The Cold War and its historical significance;
(2) celebrating peace, freedom, and the principles of democratic government;
(3) honoring and reflecting upon the role of the United States in the international struggle for individual human rights and the evolution of the free enterprise system; and
(4) recognizing the veterans who served during The Cold War
Thanks PNV
Posted on 11/19/2009 15:24:42
Here is thr correct bill and as you can see its been passed in the House and sent on call your Senator to ask for their support on this bill.
HRES 900 IH
111th CONGRESS1st Session
H. RES. 900Supporting the goals and ideals of a Cold War Veterans Recognition Day to honor the sacrifices and contributions made by members of the Armed Forces during the Cold War and encouraging the people of the United States to participate in local and national activities honoring the sacrifices and contributions of those individuals.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVESNovember 6, 2009
Mr. ISRAEL submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services
RESOLUTIONSupporting the goals and ideals of a Cold War Veterans Recognition Day to honor the sacrifices and contributions made by members of the Armed Forces during the Cold War and encouraging the people of the United States to participate in local and national activities honoring the sacrifices and contributions of those individuals.
Whereas the Cold War involved hundreds of military exercises and operations that occurred between September 2, 1945, and December 26, 1991;
Whereas millions of Americans valiantly stood watch as members of the Armed Forces during the Cold War ;
Whereas many Americans sacrificed their lives during the Cold War in the cause of defeating communism and promoting world peace and stability; and
Whereas May 1 is an appropriate day to observe a Cold War Veterans Recognition Day: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That the House of Representatives--
(1) supports the goals and ideals of a Cold War Veterans Recognition Day to honor the sacrifices and contributions made by members of the Armed Forces during the Cold War ; and
(2) encourages the people of the United States to participate in local and national activities honoring the sacrifices and contributions of those individuals.
Thank folks PNV
Posted on 11/19/2009 14:57:05
nikeherclues1 good job brother now for the membership have contacted Senator Shaheen,Congresspersons Paul Hodes,Carol Sha-Porter asking for them to sponser.
As of the moment H Res. 900 is showing over 30 members of Congress supporting and it looks like it couls be as many for H.R. 4051 stay positive folks.
Now as to the issue about N.G. & Reserves being forgotten no folks your not out in the "Cold" it has provisions to cover in H.R. 4051 so the final product is what is going to matter when its worked out in the House & Senate also keep in mind to exclude you folks would be a first as it has not been done before.
Keep up the faith stay on target for our goals and remember be positive keep pointing to the mission and what was done !
PNV
Posted on 11/15/2009 14:41:01
Fellow members Sean has reported on his blog the radio show was postponed due to heavy snow and unsafe driving conditions I am sure he shall post when they plan to have the program again on his blog if not noted here.
PNV
Posted on 11/13/2009 05:52:11
Oh too funny some time back Sean & I were making anti-China remarks and the two of us have been having problems from that time on LMAO Frank T. must have earned their ire also.
Thanks C.C. and even my posts get eaten the one prior to this poof & gone, oh well one must pay for their sins LOL an it seems some more than others : )
PNV
Posted on 11/12/2009 16:13:50
CC bro yep have done them before yet for some reason this time I went to post a new subject the freaking thing not only ate it it will not let me post like they are a snack ? { no place to do it other that those three sections} I wonder if thats what Dr.Tims { Frank was eluding too ? } its like its candy for the damn thing !
Has not let me post a new thread for over a month now and damned if I can figure out why ?
PNV
Posted on 11/11/2009 22:29:01
Hen wish I could start any new thread folks AIMOO will not allow me too,so I have to go to Frank T.Sean or Jerry or just throw a post in threads.
I find someway folks to get it done and thanks for being there to cover when I fumble : )
PNV
Posted on 11/11/2009 16:14:02
Talked to Dr.Tims today about the bills for the Cold War Service Medal the place to track them is { WashingtonWatch.com} this provides a poll {voting} as well comments go forth my pretties and spread the word LOL said the wicked King from the East ; }
Or just follow PNV's lead my best to you all PNV
Posted on 11/11/2009 08:39:38
I have to wonder if its apathy alone then again I wonder if they truly are veterans,at this stage I wonder why such a huge disconect then I look around so easy to sit behind a keyboard being viral to behave like a troll no matter what the reason.
The real work is to overide that show up each and everyday fight the good battle for the cause {whatever it may be} its so easy to tear down anything, you folks that remodle & build amoung all that destruction JP,Paul,Sean,CC,Dr.Tims aw hell you folks that show up to move issues forward.
Just as you have done for the nation Happy Veterans Day an a Hand Salute from this brother vet !
Undique Venimus {From All Parts We Came}
PNV
Posted on 11/10/2009 14:25:04
LebanonGrenadaEraVet could you explane { respect for me took a brutal turn via Kingdom of Cowshire and down to hell } is that a shot taken at me {being from N.H.} and why is that, my focus has been the goals of all ACWV's being supportive as well looking for ways to move us forward.I have always tryed to find little things to help.
Next like you I am human and I was angry seeing the remarks about the leadership selling out ect. while I agree 100% the National Guard & Reserve belong I could not let some folks accuse without rebuttal those folks were and are wrong its the politics knowing this should I have not have pointed it out nor supported the ACWV leadership ?
I understand the anger & fustration more so after chasing around those running for President when I was burned by Edwards in public asking "the question" and his reply making me look the fool, so do you folks expect me to blame leadership when the politics of "their needs" {politicians} over shadows ours ?
If I lost respect from folks for doing what I feel is right thats your choice it changes nothing I plan to move forward and do my best to get all ACWV's goals as well members their due, if I fell short I adjust so unless you have an exact reason to state where I am to fault the problem is yours if that is how you wish it.
Last my e-mail address on AIMOO has never been hidden and I said before I'd much rather not do this in the public forum it only hurts us all, this is the last I have to say in this venue my best to all members I harbor no ill feelings other than we strongly disagree who is to fault for your being left on the curb I still offer the ride to your destination as well others.
PNV
Posted on 11/10/2009 04:18:16
Most humble thanks C.C. for having my 6 hence my statement " We Showed Up " is this section, That he which hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart; his passports shall be made,And crowns for convoy put in his purse; I see this as saying it all.
PNV
Posted on 11/10/2009 01:17:06
I have no idea if folks remember my saying this when it came to Cold War Veterans I had a saying " We Showed Up " it was about all of us when I said it, when I talked to other people even fellow veterans, family, friends and politicians.
Do you think I as a member was alone feeling that way no I am not I spoke for all the leadership I belive as well, I do wish folks would keep that in mind as well that saying We Showed Up !
For those who shed their blood with me are my brother/sister, I wish that I was smart enough to remember what English King who said that I do hope our more learned members can provide it.
PNV
Posted on 11/09/2009 17:13:47
Hey folks its a shame the KDVA is in morning they could have pointed our that they had to keep fighting to include folks after the medal was granted, those members first excluded must have vented yet they rallied and as the KDVA all pushed to include as many members they could get for the award nothing is perfect from the start and most all needs following work to be done.
I was in the { reserves } and I resent the blanket coverage as well those of you acting like this was in place prior Dr. Tims,Sean and Jerry pushed,sweated and fought for all working to get a medal bill to the table as well warned about the plight of KDVA having to keep the battle going from the start of this group oh and remember VM how well did that work ?
Venting is one thing to keep up accusing and saying this was a plan of action from the start even after you were warned about the politics as well getting the foot in the door and that this could happen just trying to get the foot in the door is IMO your being off course, I have spent from April getting our group on newsvine and more into the public eye its not done over night and that pales compared to what Frank T,Sean,Jerry,Paul & Dr.Bob as well others is this how you express thanks ?
It takes alot of hard work getting support from folks while you compeating against other groups Jerry has spent near three years getting Senator Snowe to offer this after the last bill died its not perfect yet its alot freaking better than a BIG FAT ZERO !
I am so glad you folks have made the choice to be supportive and push forward on your own while stepping on the toes of those who kept it going and brought life to it again how to say thanks and we are with you for the long haul yup form your own group and then what come to these folks and ask for support and I am sure the Congress & Senate members shall be willing to jump right on board also seeing how supportive your being ?
Well I wonder if those folks that busted their ass off in your behalf did the best they could truly earned being dumped on you really belive that, as well how to say thanks to the Congress & Senate members who are being supportive to give this life once more do you know how much you look like the spoiled child stomping their foot rather than the adult moving on to resolve the issues ?
I am having no second thoughts I will stand behind Dr.Tim, Dr.Bob,Paul, Jerry, C.C. Sean and whoever else stands with them to work on getting a more inclusive award not pissing on them, that solves nothing and gets us nowhere next get your venting done and over with here in the forum or please bring it out from the public eye unless you goal is to take a huge dump on this bill !
This forum has a contact {e-mail} other than airing the dirty laundry contact me its not like I'm doing anything important I have time to listen to the gripes, I must warn you if it just to vent blow of steam fine if its just personal attacks on members this has my clams steamed as it is and I know how to delete !
PNV
Posted on 11/08/2009 00:08:36
Okay folks my slant on this Cold War Victory or Cold War Service this bill as I understand it is for the service medal that is a major change from our goal to start with as the victory medal died folks we knew it was CPR just to get the victim's heart pumping again Joe you as well other members can look at this as negitive as you wish, yet to quote the line from Frankinstein { It Live's } that monster was not perfect in the story and if you look at today how much of that fiction has become real life improvements in short it carried on from the actions of the people.
Do you folks really think that even if this Cold War Service Medal is given true life thats the end of it, we pack up the tent and stand down after all the prior years by some { Paul, Sean & Dr. Tims } have near a decade in persuit of a medal that it ?
Also what about Jerry,Scott other members who spent years just to get a medal on the map might it be selling them short as well to presume they planned to go to pasture once any old medal came along some folks forget quick that we had as a goal to get a foot in the door and procede from that point.
I am not going to go that route Dr. Tims,Sean & Jerry thank you for giving life back to our goals ever forward members staying back was never our goal and this is not back there, its here and now then the future ahead.
PNV
Posted on 10/31/2009 17:05:26
Jerry has done a write up on Newsvine for Norm Tredway please feel free to visit my section, the listings of my groups to find our group { American Cold War Veterans } or use the search engine for groups on Newsvine.
PNV
Posted on 10/27/2009 02:47:22
My deepest respect to Mr Norm Tredway's family & friends as well the folks of KDVA.
PNV
Posted on 10/16/2009 13:07:02
I just seeded a story on Newsvine about the first {Uknown} grave marker to be placed in Arlington National Cemetery in 25 years the problem is the person is known they just have no idea who it was the on going scandal I am now going to call find the vet ?
More information can be found in my section {PastNikeVet} or visit Salon.com {use search} Arlington National Cemetery if this is the mind set of the moment then its not going to bode well for the Cold War Medal sorry folks if I'm being the nay sayer so judge for yourself Senators Collins or Snowe or Robert Gates are not going to get by this entrenched group pushing past veterans aside.
PNV
Posted on 10/05/2009 22:17:10
C C making sure them rounds are on target (great job) my friend and Jim odd as it may sound I kinda miss it : }
PNV
Posted on 10/04/2009 17:08:41
rodevito we support you {EDVA} and again my friend don't waste your time selling to folks not buying focus on those you can sell your ideas to they are out there keep up the good fight and some day we shall get it done : )
PNV