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Daylor
Re :   Senator Snowe's Statement when introducing S.2743 in Senate

Sent E mails to Sen Tom Carper and Sen Ted Kaufman this AM and asked for their support and Co-Sponsoring
of this bill S. 2743


11/07/2009 09:28:28


Jerald Ter
Re :   Here is the press release

Well gang, it was a hard battle to get it done this way. A lot of resistance in the other camps. I tried for 18 months and that was a no-go. Sorry did what I could but it seemed like this or nothing. Emails and phone calls back and
forth.

We knew that a lot would be disappointed, I will take my thirty lashes. 

Maybe someone else can convince their senator to make an amendment to change it. Give it a shot, all they can do is say no.


11/07/2009 04:04:20


donnknow
Re :   is Cold War ended?

Young Russians’ About-Face From the West

When the Berlin Wall fell, young Russians clamored for all things Western. Now they rail against anything that is.

By Owen Matthews and Anna Nemtsova | Newsweek

When the Berlin Wall collapsed, most young, educated Russians aspired to what could broadly be described as Western values: democracy, free speech, anti-imperialism.

...

What a difference a few years make. ... thanks to a decade of anti-Western fervor propagated by the Kremlin, a new generation is growing up strikingly out of sync with the West.
...
"The generation who grew up in the Putin era have a completely different mentality. Modern pro-Kremlin youth groups are so well fed by the state that they've grown faithful as tame dogs." The result is a generation that not only buys into the Kremlin's world view, but is also deeply distrustful of anybody who thinks differently.

Denis Volkov, of the Moscow Levada Center, has studied the attitudes of Russia's youth toward the West and its values and uncovered a scary picture. Over the past decade, numbers have been falling. A poll last month showed that 40 percent of 18- to 24-year-olds have a "negative" attitude towards the U.S., not far behind those over 55, a Soviet-era generation that has long been steeped in anti-Western propaganda. And in a kind of demented historical throwback, Stalin is once again in favor.
...
The rollback of pro-Western attitudes is largely a direct result of a concerted state policy aimed at shaping the hearts and minds of Russian youth, led by Putin and executed by his chief ideologist, Vladislav Surkov.
...
Surkov and other top Kremlin ideologues quickly ordered a slew of anti-Western television propaganda casting George W. Bush's campaign to spread democracy in the Middle East as an attack on Russia.
...
"Putin's television anti-Western propaganda has done its dirty business," says Lipman. "Young Russians are cynical people who believe that Russia is surrounded with enemies, that the West does not want Russia to grow stronger."
...
Russia's dwindling number of Boris Yeltsin-era liberals find such attitudes scarily reminiscent of Soviet-era groupthink. A recent campaign mounted by Nashi activists in Moscow against a dissident journalist likewise shows that the Kremlin-backed youth groups are growing more powerful than ever, and that they're repeating the kind of harassment of independent thinkers common in the 1970s.
...
"Moscow's politics is now concentrated on finding the most talented young people in the regions who will be able to save Russia from economic crises," says Evgeny Nizhnik, 31, a charismatic youth leader who has been involved in youth politics since 1991. "Chaos, cheap drugs, alcoholism, and racism were the result of unlimited democracy in the 1990s. Russian youth needs a strong grip in order not to get lost in chaos." Of course, another side effect of that strong grip is to prevent dangerously independent thoughts that could challenge the Kremlin's hold on power. It's a sad outcome for those who hoped to see a young generation use the new freedoms won after the fall of the Berlin Wall to embrace liberal values.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/221210/page/2


11/06/2009 23:16:03


Jerald Ter
Re :   service requirement

As Sean said, it was a battle and there was give and take on both sides. Working with Senator Snowe's staff
was a pleasure and the best we could do was the 24 months or the overseas.

Joe Sixeas worked with the cosponsors staff members to bring about the least amount of opposition from
those concerned.

I know it will be hard for some members to accept this. We take the best, and there is always hope that in the
future the time line can be changed and made retroactive .

I did my best and to some my best just wasn't good enough; but we will still keep trying to make it more equitable to everyone.

Jerry


11/06/2009 22:20:40


jcochr
Re :   service requirement

Sean,

Thanks for your hard work - I agree that if the service requirement was necessary to make the medal happen, then it is the way to go.  Hopefully the service requirements can be modified in the future.

Having Jim Webb behind this is a BIG factor.  I am going to write him to thank him for his support (I am from Virginia).



Jim Cochran
MSgt, USAFR Retired
USAF 1972-76
ANG 1977-94 


11/06/2009 22:00:19


seaneagan
Re :   service requirement

 Thanks USMC We did our best now lets bring it on home this next month we need to go on the offensive with our lawmakers it was so difficult getting it started this time I want to giterdone. I feel like this could be our year with webb on board.


11/06/2009 21:39:30


USMC_Kinda
Re :   service requirement

Sean,

I figured as much when I initially saw the service requirement, which was no doubt the result of a lot of pushback from the Congress (and DoD, I would assume). You're certainly correct when you said that without some compromise [on our part], that we might well have ended up with no bill at all. The folks here know that Jerry and you did the best that you could, and we really do appreciate your efforts on our behalf. I do feel badly for the folks who won't qualify initially, but have hope that subsequent legislation might expand the coverage for a medal down the road. In any event, thanks! You guys are doing a great job.

USMC_Kinda_Guy


11/06/2009 19:14:54


jpeters


11/06/2009 19:01:48


seaneagan
Topic :   service requirement

As far as service requirement we did our best we proposed a shorter term but that was a no go thats why the B and c provision leaves leeway for exceptions. Best we could do my apologies if it effects you. I myself was 2 days short of 2 years service and was not sure I would qualify. It is a different bill than same old one hopefully it will get through this time . this was a fight and a struggle to get this introduced and without some compromise we might not have ever got another bill. If people want to gripe go right ahead; but we should all be thankful we have one more and maybe a last crack at this. This is the first last time I will address this issue but I hope everyone thanks jerry for breaking through with Snowe It made finding someone to introduce a House version easy. kudos Jerry



11/06/2009 18:50:23


USMC_Kinda
Re :   House Bill introduced today

Sean,

Thanks buddy. Great news indeed. As was the case with Jerry, YOU DA MAN! (heh). Seriously, thanks for all the hard work you've put into this. It's greatly appreciated.

USMC_Kinda_Guy


11/06/2009 18:19:24


seaneagan
Topic :   House Bill introduced today



Ok guys i have some great news we have a house version introduced today with a 2nd bill honoring CW vets but
I will not give details yet until the official press realease. I have been working with a congressman's office in my state and we have had major input in what is being introduced. so watch thomas monday tuesday maybe tomorrow I wiil give you all the details as soon as I get press release. I am holding this info back as a courtesy unitl they officially roll it out on (9th or 11th )


11/06/2009 18:11:47


USMC_Kinda
Re :   Senator Snowe's Statement when introducing S.2743 in Senate

Another suggestion when writing to your esteemed senators - Make sure to ask them to become actual co-sponsors to the Cold War Medal bill (S.2743). Forget the non-comittal, non-specific pledges of "support"; concrete, unequivocal support in the form of quickly becoming a CO-SPONSOR for S.2743 is the specific request that we should be asking when writing/e-mailing our Senators. The same will be equally true when writing our Congressman/woman (once we have a companion bill to which we can refer).

USMC_Kinda_Guy


11/06/2009 18:09:09


Shuman 14
Re :   Reply To JIM%20WELLER

Reply to JIM WELLER (11/06/2009 15:47:56)

Push your local congressmen to submit a Cold War Service Medal bill in the House.  Have the standard 30 days of continuous AD or 60 days non-continuous in that draft and it will be worked out in conference.  Still hoping that Sec. Gates acts on the original suggestion of congress before this even goes to the floor.

If we were/are in so tight with Senator Snowe's office we shouldn't have and to change anything, it should have been in the original drafting of the bill.

Who dropped the ball on this?


11/06/2009 16:25:45


Shuman 14
Re :   Reply To Ol%20Duke

Reply to Ol Duke (11/06/2009 14:29:53)

Count me in also as one who will be left out.  15 good years in the TNARNG and U.S. Army Reserves and no joy.  That will be good for about half that should qualify.  1971-77 TNARNG, 84-85 TNARNG, 85-93 U.S. Army Reserves + 3 years in IRR.  Oh, well....glad many that deserve it might get recognized.

Again I'll ask, we, the ACWV, were working so close with the Senator's office on this Bill, how did we miss the exclusion of Guardsmen and Reservists?

None of Hillary's bills had this requirement, if you qualified for the Cold War Service Certificate with your Military Service then you qualified for the previous bills' medal.

I feel totally let down by this.


11/06/2009 16:22:13


jpeters
Re :   Senator Snowe's Statement when introducing S.2743 in Senate

 Here's a good suggestion on how to get the word out to fellow vets. If you go on the American Legion website you can search for local legion posts within 10, 20, 50, or 100 miles of whatever city you type in. It will then give you all the contact info for these local posts. Many have an email contact for the local post commander or adjutant.

I just sent emails to every legion post within a 50 mile radius of where I live asking that they please pass the word to their members and to encourage them to contact their elected officials. Many of these Legion Vets will qualify for the medal so hopefully we can get as many on board as possible.

John


11/06/2009 16:10:25


jpeters
Re :   Here is the press release

 Here's a good suggestion on how to get the word out to fellow vets. If you go on the American Legion website you can search for local legion posts within 10, 20, 50, or 100 miles of whatever city you type in. It will then give you all the contact info for these local posts. Many have an email contact for the local post commander or adjutant.

I just sent emails to every legion post within a 50 mile radius of where I live asking that they please pass the word to their members and to encourage them to contact their elected officials. Many of these Legion Vets will qualify for the medal so hopefully we can get as many on board as possible.

John


11/06/2009 16:09:44


JIM WELLER
Re :   Here is the press release

Push your local congressmen to submit a Cold War Service Medal bill in the House.  Have the standard 30 days of continuous AD or 60 days non-continuous in that draft and it will be worked out in conference.  Still hoping that Sec. Gates acts on the original suggestion of congress before this even goes to the floor.


11/06/2009 15:47:56


USMC_Kinda
Re :   Senator Snowe's Statement when introducing S.2743 in Senate

Excellent statement by Senator Snowe, and I particularly agree with her assessment that it is ASTONISHING that a medal has yet to be awarded to recognize Cold War Service. Kudos!

Of note also - especially for those who are busily composing their e-mails to their Senators - is her recognition (final paragraph) that the 20th Anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall  would be an excellent time to cosponsor this Cold War Medal legislation.

Don't forget to include this 20th Anniversary theme when writing to your elected officials - Senators and Congressmen/women alike, because it provides context (as well as a sense of urgency) as to why THIS year should be the year when a Cold War Medal is FINALLY realized.

USMC_Kinda_Guy


11/06/2009 15:02:00

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MISSION

The American Cold War Veterans is a nonpartisan 501c nonprofit veterans service organization incorporated in the State of Florida and founded on August 18, 2007 at The Truman Library in Independence, MO. As a group we are dedicated to all of our Brother and Sister Veterans, with special dedication to those who served during the Cold War era September 1945 to December 1991. Our Mission is to bring respect, recognition and awareness to Veterans of the Cold War era no matter what branch of service, whether active duty, reserve or National Guard. We are committed to honoring the sacrifices made by millions of American men and women during the Cold War, especially those who paid the ultimate price of life or liberty. We intend to see that the Cold War's history is completely and accurately understood by people everywhere. We are united in these goals and speak with one voice.


NDAA 2002 - FACT


The NDAA 2002 was passed by congress October 2001 signed into Law Dec. 28 2001, In the NDAA that was approved by both houses, signed into law by the President, was the Sense of Congress to authorize the Campaign Medal for service in the Cold War.

NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2002

115 STAT. 1118 PUBLIC LAW 107–107—DEC. 28, 2001 Code, that the award of the Distinguished Flying Cross to that individual is warranted and that a waiver of time restrictions prescribed by law for recommendation for such award is recommended.

SEC. 556. SENSE OF CONGRESS ON ISSUANCE OF CERTAIN MEDALS.
It is the sense of Congress that the Secretary of Defense should consider authorizing—

  1. the issuance of a campaign medal, to be known as the Korea Defense Service Medal, to each person who while a member of the Armed Forces served in the Republic of Korea, or the waters adjacent thereto, during the period beginning on July 28, 1954, and ending on such date thereafter as the Secretary considers appropriate;

  2. the issuance of a campaign medal, to be known as the Cold War Service Medal, to each person who while a member of the Armed Forces served satisfactorily on active duty during the Cold War; and

  3. the award of the Vietnam Service Medal to any member or former member of the Armed Forces who was awarded the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal for participation in military operations designated as Operation Frequent Wind arising from the evacuation of Vietnam on April 29 and 30, 1975.


The Medal was not created! Why?

Were Cold War veterans casualties of the Iraq War planning?

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