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(Date Posted:03/11/2008 10:40:09)

 
 Hey folks, My name is Sabrina, "Brie" for short.  I was in SGT missile units in both Korea, (3/81 ARTY), and Germany, (5/77 Arty).
 Before anyone says "wait a moment, back then, there were no females in combat units", you are right.  Now you have your chance to throw me off this site.  I was born a Hermaphrodite, and was surgiclly "corrected" as an infant. To bad they guessed wrong. I spent a total of five years in the Army, three years active, and two years active reserves.
 Ten years ago, I had the plumming rearanged, and am now legally female.  Sooo with THAT out of the way, I would like to offer my thanks to the members of the New York Legislature for their passing the bill autherizing the State Cold War Medal. NOW lets see if the Gov. signs it concidering the fact that he is in hot water up to his ears over his involvement with prostitutes.
  Take it light guys, hope you keep me around on the boards, but I'll understand if you feel that I'm too "controversial".    Brie


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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/11/2008 11:21:55)

Well Brie, you left it wide open for comment and it made me chuckle a little. You may get nothing, you may get the phone book, who knows. As to your parents decision, well it was 50-50 and they crapped out. Just don't take them to Vegas.

Here ares my concerns:

1. Did you serve honorably?
2. Did you serve during the Cold War period as defined by the DoD?

If you answered yes to both, then I welcome you aboard.

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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/11/2008 11:47:22)


 In answer to both of your questions, yes, I served honorably, which is why two years after I got out of the active Army, I joined the active reserve in a Combat Engineer unit that was in Binghampton, New York,  that supported the 10th Mountain Division, that at that time was at Camp Drum, New York.
 I was commended by the Commanding General of the 10th Mountain Division in front of my unit in 1975. At the time, I was the area communitations Chief.
 When I was in the Active army, I left the Active Army with a Re-enlistment code of one, and when I left the Active reserves to go to Germany to work as a communications technician for Radio Free Europe, it was still as RE-1.
 By the way, when I was in the active Army, I was a missile crewman, radio teletype repair, and artillery survey, depending on the needs of the unit in question.  I was also on the I-Corps National Match Rifle Team for one season while in Korea.    Brie
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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/11/2008 20:48:38)

Reply to USAREUR (03/11/2008 10:40 AM).
Welcome Brie,

In civilian life I worked for the Voice of America at two stateside transmitting stations. The radio wars were fun, especially using Radio Moscow's frequencies as tune up frequencies. :) I worked in SW, I would guess you probably worked MW. During the Vietnam war if you had long hair you were somehow unamerican, but after they got you and shaved off your hair you were a real Merican deserving of 1 each body bag.

Thanks for all your service to the nation.

Jon

Jon, I would do it again in a moment.  We had a lot of fun at RFE, every once in a while, we would be invited to a party in one of the different news rooms, All of the eastern comblock countries plus the Russian news room. The different foods were fantastic.   Brie

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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/11/2008 23:08:08)


  Jon,
   Gloria was the secretary of the director, (who drove a 2plus2 Jag XKE) .  Woodard and I used to enjoy Herr Hubers Weiswurst every Wednesday in the engineering section.  If I were to mention messrs. Markus, and Russell, would you know who I was talking about?  Anything more will HAVE to be with PM's  Brie
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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/12/2008 00:29:00)


Brie, Welcome to our group, glad to have you here. And thank you for your service

While I was Navy as a Radioman I had my share of tty problems, especially when we converted from
60wpm to 100wpm, those thing just flew apart. Maybe that well placed kick to the side of the tty helped.

Hope that join us a become a full fledged member, and maybe you will come to DC for our meeting April 30 and
May 1

Jerry

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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/12/2008 04:32:51)


  Jerry,
   I plan on joining later this week.  Your TTY's were they Teletype Company's machines, or the older Klienshmidts?  I worked on both. The Klienshmidts in the Army, and the Telcos at RFE. 
  We will see about D.C., I would have to work it in to the schedule.  Brie
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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/12/2008 22:54:24)


Brie,

They were the Telcos, big old clunkers stood about 4 feet high, decorated in battleship grey. Even bolted to the deck they would shake and rattle a bit.  Later we got some of the newer, faster and smalller kind that would sit on a desk.

I used to be able to read the perf tape almost as fast as print.

Jerry

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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/13/2008 05:47:29)

 
  Jerry,   What we had at RFE in the news rooms were the either the Telco tt-28s, or the tt-32s. Either one would sit in a small cabinet for noise control, but they would have had plenty of room on a desktop.    The raw news would come into the main news room, and would be edited and sent ouut to the different news rooms to be translated into the language of that Country. The feed from the central news room to the different national newsrooms was by teletype.   Each news room had it's own studio attached to it, so they didn't have to shuttle content to who ever was broadcasting at that time.  The Czech newsroom was directly above us, one floor up, the food they had was INCREDIBLE, they would share it with us.  I liked hanging out with them, and the Poles the most, but got along with everyone really well.  Brie
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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/13/2008 14:41:50)

Nice to see another Missileer come on board.

Welcome Brie!

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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/13/2008 15:19:38)


  Scott,

   Thanks for the welcome, I'm going to join next week after my check is deposited in my account tomorrow.  I Don't think that I will be able to make the event this year, but next year for sure.  Brie

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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/16/2008 21:53:31)

You worked for VOA?  They had one put up in the island of TINIAN a few years back.  In fact, they offered me a job to work out of the one on Saipan but this seemed to be a contractor out of Houston.  When he made me the job offer at 7 bucks an hour, I stayed with the job I got.  Being a Field Radio Operator in the USMC, they immediately offered me a job until I figured out that with these extremely low wages, they wanted local hires and nothing in it for a "Houlie" to sweeten the pot for me to make a change.  I was making 16 and change plus 500 bucks housing.  I did hook up a former ship mate that was xpatted on Saipan for years, drinking himself to death that needed a job as an antennae rigger on Tinian.  Hope he never fell but I haven't heard from him in a long time.  Anyhow, I was an avid VOA, Radio Moscow, Christian Science Monitor, and NKK out of Japan listner while on board ship.  I still have my short wave radio but with today's satellite and internet, it about made short wave dxing for me absolete and I'm no longer on vessels.  Welcome on board.    
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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/17/2008 08:18:58)


  29 Palms,
   I was not at VOA, USAREUR was. I was at RFE. We just know people who were at both.  Hey USAREUR, I just sent you a PM with my E-mail in the subject line.   Brie
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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/17/2008 13:51:47)


Well it seems we have a lot of communicators, radio/tty operators. Here is something you might remember
http://www.baudot.net/teletype.htm

Or for military radios
http://www.armyradio.co.uk/arsc/customer/pages.php?pageurl=/Pictures/Radios/American_Radios/index.htm

Jerry

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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/17/2008 14:19:05)


  Jerry,
   Thanks for the photos, they brought back a BUNCH of good memories.  I'd love to have a pair of wolrking RT524s, one at my place, and one at my friend Jim's place. Right now we use our handheld Aircraft VHF Transivers just fine, but it would be a trip to use the old VRC radios.  Brie
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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/17/2008 16:46:16)

Now your'e talking my language.  RT-524's.  We called it the "GRUNT" radio.  Had them on the AAV's and Tanks, Hummers, Jeeps.  Remember the R-442's?  Little receivers only.  Then the matching antennae unit MX6707.  Krypto stuff too.  KY-57 KY-38.  Used the PRC-77 taped on to a pole for an RC-292.  And if you added on other devices, it turned to another nomenclature.  Pretty cool stuff.  I work on airplanes now for the airlines and we get into different types of comm.  Stuff like GLIDESLOPE, VNAV or LNAV, VOR, ILS antennae, SATCOM, GPS.  Wow, if only they had GPS back then, but then again, there are now CELL PHONES that I am sure made alot of military stuff absolete.  Believe it or not, Comm school in 29 Palms opened up a different world for me, never thought I would see it again learing airplanes.  My "New" mos as a civilian working as an A&P Technician never lets me forget my foundation as a Field Radio Operator when we learn about aircraft communications.  The BLOCK DIAGRAMS are exactly the same, only we use things like ARINC 429 or ARINC 629 on planes.  This is lighter than wiring and can transmit alot more data within interfacing computers.  (Looks like a white ribbon you see inside your computer.)  Alot of this stuff is SOFTWARE FUNCTIONS interfacing with discreet messages you get in the primary display units, and interfacing with other stuff.  These zero's and ones turn into letters you read.  Alot more boolian algebra such as AND OR NAND gates.  But I initially learned about comm back in 1982 in MCCES MCAGCC at 29 Palms with the USMC.  Frickin airplane is a flying computer.  It flies itself once programmed.  It can take off and land on auto pilot.  It's a frickin computer for crying out loud.

(Message edited by 29Palms On 03/17/2008 16:49:09)
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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/17/2008 16:54:26)

Jerry, this stuff is nice.  Works good, last a long time, but its HEAVY.  With the microchip out now, I'm wondering what the military uses today.  These radio's you showed on your link are OLD radios.  You could probably use a hand held RT524 now and I even wonder if tracks still use these dinasours.  Sure hate to be luggin those radios from broke track to broke track in 100 plus degree weather in sand storms.  But knowing the Marines, they probably add balast to those radios to build you up like KING KONG as you hump those bastads from Bagdad to Timbuktu.
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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/17/2008 21:57:58)


Brie, I checked ebay and even contacted one of the sellers, no RT524 yet. Never know when something will turn up though. Did see a couple of those pilot emergency hand held jobs.


29 Palms, yeah they are old, I did a few hours riding in an LCVP using a PRC9 as the boat radio when taking our every friendly Marines to the beach for war games. Once a Gator always a Gator! Not all of our gear was quite that old, but in the 60's we had the best available at the time. We had just come out of the shipyard with a complete comm update, and I got transfered to Navcommsta San Miguel, PI in 66.


Never forget in Radioman school they said you will probably never see a flash message. HAH, seemed like every other message was Flash, handeled all the traffic ship to shore, and a lot of the bases in Nam.

Jerry

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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/18/2008 07:45:50)


  We used to run an RT 524 and an R 442 together to run relay stations on mountaintops in Germany and Korea. It was cool, because I was up on the mountain with one or two operators and that was it. Nobody had to play guard at night, and no one was looking over our shoulders.
  I know about flying computers, THAT'S why my personal airplane is a restored 1940 Taylorcraft. NO ELECTRICAL SYSTEM, not even a starter. You ought to see the faces at the local airports when I walk out to my plane and prop start it. I carry a JRC handheld which will also work VOR's when I fly, but that's it.   Brie
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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/18/2008 10:56:46)

brie welcome in our group
nice to meet jou


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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/18/2008 13:09:40)


  Thank you, I am enjoying this site, and the camraderie a lot.  Brie
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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/18/2008 20:12:26)

Dude.  I just picked up a DIGIWALKER C230 portable GPS navigation as I browsed through Radio Shack today, on my way to pick up a bottle of cologne.  So intending to pick up a bottle of cologne for 20 bucks, I bought this GPS navigation device on sale for.....NOW, GET THIS...129.99.  It was supposedly down from some 289 bucks or so, but I see them online for no less than 149.99 depending on what store you go to.  I never owned one of these things, but I bet I'm gonna have me some fun with this stuff.  (I guess it was time to upgrade from my two or three compasses.)  The only bumber is that this charging cord comes in cigarrette lighter connection form for your car, and my USB cable for my digital camera downloads doesn't have the same connection for my GPS so I will have to make another run to Radio Shack to see about what possibilities they may have so I can charge my GPS at home.  My cigarrette lighter on my buick is out of commission.  Gotta fix that crap.  WTF over?
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RE:Greetings from Salt Flats Texas
(Date Posted:03/22/2008 08:58:36)

Brie,
Welcome to the site,

I was a RTT operator from 1975-1978 with the 6/32nd Armor I was supposed to do radio teletype but honestly I did more mechanic work than I ever did work on the radios! The just as well have changed my MOS to Tracked Vehicle Mechanic! They actually sent me to a achool for generator mechanics. Our poor 577 barely stayed alive! However while we were in Germany for reforger it was kind of nice knowing as much about the charging system as the regular mechanics did... It was easy to break down with in walking distance of a guest house! We could at least get a good lunch out of the thing! We ate many a loaf of bread and brick of cheese on the top of that track!


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Reply To jinxedjohn
(Date Posted:03/23/2008 20:56:07)

Brie,
Welcome to the site,

I was a RTT operator from 1975-1978 with the 6/32nd Armor I was supposed to do radio teletype but honestly I did more mechanic work than I ever did work on the radios! The just as well have changed my MOS to Tracked Vehicle Mechanic! They actually sent me to a achool for generator mechanics. Our poor 577 barely stayed alive! However while we were in Germany for reforger it was kind of nice knowing as much about the charging system as the regular mechanics did... It was easy to break down with in walking distance of a guest house! We could at least get a good lunch out of the thing! We ate many a loaf of bread and brick of cheese on the top of that track!




Whhooooooeeee.  I'd be sure to sleep upwind from you guys slamming pumpernicle dark bread with cheese for sure! 
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